Misrepresenting Calvinism Part II

Here is part two of Mr. Berner's attempted refutation of the Doctrines of Grace or Calvinism. Things do not improve as far as being able to properly present a Biblical refutation rather than having to rely on emotional appeals and misrepresentations of Calvinism. Rather than point out every single one of Mr. Berner's mistakes I will try and make two or three major points to show how Mr. Berner has fallen short of his goal.

This video follows directly after video one so there is no introduction and the video starts where the first one left off. His continuation goes on with an argument made by many atheist to try and refute Christianity. The problem of evil. Before I continue I want to be sure to point out that Mr. Berner does not escape this problem of evil, but he never addresses how he explains the evil in the world. His problem of evil is greater than that of the Calvinist.

Like many atheists, he has to put aside reality and go to a hypothetical to try and disprove the truth. God is a loving God, He is all knowing, all powerful and He is a personal God. Mr. Berner's god is none of the above. Did Mr. Berner's god know that something bad was going to happen? If he didn't, then he is not the God of the Bible. Mr. Berner needs to explain why these bad things happen as well. His god either, didn't know it was going to happen, never planned for it to happen and was surprised when it did, knew it was going to happen but was either powerless to do anything or chose not to do anything.

"As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good..." Mr. Berner never addresses passages like Genesis 50 or Romans 9. Mr. Berner has yet to exegete ANY verse to make his claim. There is no purpose for the evil that occurs according Mr. Berner. The Bible tells us that all things happen for the glory of God, he works all things according to the council of His will, Eph. 1:11. Mr. Berner, since he has a misunderstanding of the depravity of man and he seeks to place human will above that of the Triune God of the Bible. All men are sinners and are thus under the righteous judgment of God. Romans 9:22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory... It is Gods power that is demonstrated in the destruction of the sinner and ultimately His Glory. God will judge the sinner and save the righteous.

At around 2 min. plus, he again talks about Gods love, and sinners. He again asserts that God doesn't hate sinners. Mr. Berner, the Bible teaches that God hates sinners. Proverbs 6:16-19, Psalms 5:5, Malachi 1:1-3. Does not the Bible teach of the destruction of the sinners? Mr. Berner maybe doesn't know that God doesn't hear the prayers of the sinner, Isa. 1:15, John 9:31. It is becoming more and more apparent that Mr. berner is the one guilty of what he is accusing Calvinists of being, he is blind, sick, foolish. It is him that is in the ditch!

Beginning at about 3:50 into the video, Mr. Berner once again attempts to deal with election and predestination according to Romans 9. In the first video he tried to make the claim that Romans 9 was of national election, now he is attempting to show that God's election and foreknowledge is based upon God looking into the future to see who would love him. This is what Dr. Ergun Caner calls "elected, because I selected" theology and is not supported by scripture. I exegeted Romans 9 in my first rebuttal to Mr. Berner. Romans 9:11 clearly shows where Mr. Berner is wrong. So, it's not because of anything the twins had done, either good or bad but to demonstrate God's purpose. Then Paul, again asserts, just in case you didn't get it in the first part of the verse that election is not based on ANYTHING the individual does, Paul states later in the same verse "not because of works, but because of him who calls". Paul clearly writes in this verse that election is not based on anything the person does.

How fitting that he closes with Daniel 12:10. Mr. Berner doesn't seem able to understand the verses I have cited, based on Mr. Berner's own criteria, is he one of the wicked?